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How to disable keyring module that was introduced in latest tbc update? #587

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ConKou opened this issue Jun 18, 2021 · 30 comments · May be fixed by #590
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How to disable keyring module that was introduced in latest tbc update? #587

ConKou opened this issue Jun 18, 2021 · 30 comments · May be fixed by #590

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@ConKou
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ConKou commented Jun 18, 2021

Also how to remove keyring free space from showing near bag freed space?

@Talyrius
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Talyrius commented Jun 18, 2021

Click the section visibility [V] button at the top-right of the bag to toggle the Key/Keyring sections off and on.

@ConKou
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ConKou commented Jun 18, 2021

I did that, but the in free space it still shows the free space of the keyring and its annoying.
https://prnt.sc/15sm7pu

@GregoryGH
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Yea, same problem. Disabled Keyring but still free space shown. Can you disable it as well? Useless information.

@gelsbern
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I reverted back to the previouis version. The implementation of the keyring messes things up. Should open it's own window maybe

@Talyrius
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@gelsbern
Messes what things up? Be specific.

@ctvw
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ctvw commented Jun 18, 2021

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@Talyrius
Keyring space is still included in Free Space, even when visibility is unchecked.

@Talyrius
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@ctthomas
All of that wasted space is precisely why this option exists:
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Result:
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@ConKou
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ConKou commented Jun 18, 2021

Yes that's true, but still, the merged space showing Keyring free slots is kinda annoying. Not a huge issue, but i would rather not have it. Hence downgrading on earlier version.

@Talyrius
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Talyrius commented Jun 18, 2021

I was told how "annoying" it was that there was no keyring support (see #586) and now I'm hearing about how "annoying" it is that it's been implemented... There's truly no winning here.

@ClawhammerLobotomy
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@Talyrius I'd say the win here would be to have the empty key spaces hide when the key category is hidden. Or have a separate option to show/hide empty key spaces.

Blizzard's UI doesn't even expose the empty key ring spaces to the user since you're likely not going to be filling them up.

I find it helpful to be able to check my keys now, but there isn't much benefit to seeing a number of rarely used empty spaces.

@Talyrius
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This is working within the confines of the way AdiBags was written (reusing code for ammo/tradeskill bag support and the like). What you're proposing is a vast departure from that and would require lots of retooling. Sorry, but that's out of the question.

@ConKou
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ConKou commented Jun 18, 2021

Yeah that other request was probably done by people who dont know how their UI works. With bartender / dominos and even classic blizzard UI you can have separate icon for keyring. Clicking that button would open up a bag with their keyring. Am i missing something here? Why i could access it but they couldn't?

@Talyrius
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The vast majority of custom UIs do not include bag/keyring buttons.

@ConKou
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ConKou commented Jun 18, 2021

Eh, you are the programmer you make the decisions. But having a cluttered bag for a feature that no one checks is not useful for 3 guys that complained.

@illutian
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Would it be possible to have an option to merge free KEY RING space only; separate from the 'normal inventory' merge.

In fact, I'm not sure if I should make this a new post or not, but I imagine the 'specialty bags' (ammo, soul shard, mining, herbalism, etc) could also benefit from being able to merge the free space of just those types. While leaving the omni-purpose free inventory slots alone.

@ConKou
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ConKou commented Jun 18, 2021

Lock specialty bags have feature. Free slots for soul bags is different from normal

@ConKou
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ConKou commented Jun 18, 2021

Anyway i don't want to stress you about this. If you can fix it its ok

@Psanders0
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Thank you for all your work on Adibags Talyrius, I think ideally it would be an option here, but looking at the code it is non-trivial to change the bag sources dynamically.

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But in the meantime, for those of us who hate it, there is a small code change that can be made to disable it. (At your own risk)

Go to \World of Warcraft_classic_\Interface\AddOns\AdiBags\core
Open Constants.lua
Change Line 36 from:
local BAGS = { [KEYRING_CONTAINER] = KEYRING_CONTAINER, [BACKPACK_CONTAINER] = BACKPACK_CONTAINER }
to:
local BAGS = {[BACKPACK_CONTAINER] = BACKPACK_CONTAINER }
Save it
Restart wow

@mnejing
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mnejing commented Jun 19, 2021

@Talyrius I think the glaring reason people find the update to be annoying is because suddenly we're seeing all of our keys in our bags too, when that wasn't the case prior to like... yesterday. It was jarring to see, and just made my bags look fuller than expected, and honestly kind of made it harder to find items in my bag.

I realize you're just reusing code (ammo bags etc) to accomplish this, but I expect the more prudent change would be to have a keyring button that opens another window. I STRONGLY suspect that's why people don't like this new thing, because the reality is that the keyring is wholly unimportant to see unless you NEED to see it. There's no need to always know which keys you have, which is the issue right now.

I'm personally fine with disabling key visibility and seeing the merged keyring free space as a slot in my bag, as it's very minimally intrusive, but that's a personal preference.

Long story short, the appropriate fix for this is going to require effort. The keyring should be a separate window, not part of your regular bags. I'm familiarizing myself with the source now and am looking at adding it myself.

@illutian
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For me, I just like seeing 'at a glance' how many slots I have. Now with the change I needed to use the 'merge' feature and it's a lot more difficult to do a quick check.

I'd prefer the option to not have AdiBags touch the keyring "bag".

@GregoryGH
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Just make free keyring slots hidden when keyring itself is hidden and it will be good enough.

@bidaumm
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bidaumm commented Jun 19, 2021

I was told how "annoying" it was that there was no keyring support (see #586) and now I'm hearing about how "annoying" it is that it's been implemented... There's truly no winning here.

The issue isn't that there is now keyring support. The issue is that the addon by default shows free slots in the keyring in the "free" slot category. This is near irrelevant information to the player and now clutters the addon with unnecessary information.

@gelsbern
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To the developers, don't be disheartened, it is great that you are working to try to make everyone happy. I think what people may have really wanted is to have the keyring as it's own separate display and not merged in to the bags itself. So Bank, Bags and Keyring all have their own window. The Blizzard Keyring UI sux and is not moveable, so if the keyring were it's own separate window, I think that would fit the bill of what I know I was looking for. I love your addon, keep up the great work and I know you will get this figured out.

@Zyin055
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Zyin055 commented Jun 19, 2021

It's great that keyring support was added. But since the keyring is rarely used it clutters the window during normal use. I don't know how the addon is coded, but I feel the best user experience would be to have an option to hide the empty keyring slots, as well as a button on the main window to toggle the occupied keyring slots on/off. This already exists with the "V" button, but it doesn't hide the empty keyring slots.
If that isn't feasible, alternatively you could provide an option to turn off keyring support which could then be re-enabled when the user wants to access the keyring.

@Talyrius
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If you're familiar with Lua and want to offer assistance, please see #590.

@Mrbahaga
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i uncheck key ring and it didnt remove it from the free space . i had to start using bagnon . even though i dont want to .. till this is fixxed :(

@jcandresen
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jcandresen commented Jul 3, 2021

i don't know what other people are complaining about. i find it super useful to see that I have 32 free key slots left on my level 5 druid /s
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@Calzeru
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Calzeru commented Jul 23, 2021

Would love to see this keyring free slots go away. Like someone suggested if you disable keyring then keyring free slots should also disappear.

@GregoryGH
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Is there any improvements planned or I should remove it after every update myself?

@rjacqu
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rjacqu commented Jul 22, 2022

Edit for 'civility':
What is the update? Someone already posted a fix. The keyring doesnt need to see freespace it infinitely expands to hold all your keys.

Edited by @Talyrius:
Comment with civility or don't at all. Thank you.

@Cidan Cidan closed this as completed Aug 21, 2022
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