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Investigate the requirement and workflow to get the course certified for issuing ECTs #1

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hurngchunlee opened this issue Nov 16, 2022 · 8 comments
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please check how this course would relate to the RDM course that PhD students can already take in the graduate school. You don't want them to overlap. I was not able to quickly find the actual course (I also never attended myself). You may find it here https://www.ru.nl/promovendi/ or here https://www.ru.nl/research-information-services/ but perhaps you have to ask Inge or Theresa (from the RIS team) for the course that they offer.

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Or perhaps search here https://www.ru.nl/donders/talent-education/phd-programme/graduate-school-training/ for donders-specific info

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hurngchunlee commented Nov 23, 2022

From the website https://www.ru.nl/promovendi/ I found a course about Open Science where RDM is discussed. From the course description, the RDR team (Inge, Stijn) are involved: see https://ru.capp12.nl/library/articles/072b3869-d3aa-46d4-98d8-9e29e1593111 (accessible after Automagic login with SURFConext)

I will contact Inge and Stijn to get more information about this course.

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Looking at the list and considering where we can rely on general training, and where it is domain/institution specific, I think that from

  1. RDM: introduction to Research Data Management
  2. RDM: writing a Data Management Plan
  3. RDM: documenting and organising data
  4. RDM: data storage and sharing during research
  5. RDM: research ethics: personal data
  6. RDM: research ethics: informed consent
  7. RDM: archiving research data at publication

especially 3 and 4 are specific for us.

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I just forward you guys an email which includes the slides of the RDM part of the Open Science course, and some points I took during a chat with Stijn.

I can see that the course we are designing focuses more on hands-on exercises with DCCN workflow/data-structure/tooling in mind.

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Thanks for the notes and slides. Should we for the DCCN course expect that people have a data management plan? I understand that our researchers are expected to use the generic RU template at RIS, is that still the case @steven-donders? Are you all familiar with that RDM format? (note: I am).

I think that a DMP is a good starting point for a more hands-on approach, since it lists the types of data and the locations/systems that will be used. That is where it gets DCCN specific, this is around slide 32 in the "DAY 2" presentation.

The slides from "DAY 4" overlap with training that in the past was provided with HTRYE. I don't know yet in which format ethics, consent, and sharing are to return in the RDM workshop.

Also as a side note: We should add some information on when to do use Dropbox, Google Drive, etc. Not for data, but still for getting science done. Many people confuse "data" management with "file" management, but not all files comprise research data. Our researchers should not feel bad about them using Dropbox, Google Drive, etc for the right things.

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Hi Robert, thanks for the insightful comments. Regarding the ECTS points, we contacted Annemieke Barsingerhorn of the DI graduate school. I believe some time ago for the HPC course, the DI graduate school was also contacted. To be continued.

Yes, mentioning a data management plan would be a good step, which I will note down as a task. In my experience, it would be helpful to use a generic DMP template (such as that of RIS) and provide attendees with the required "building blocks."

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Slides Open Science accessible via our SurfDrive folder, url:

https://surfdrive.surf.nl/files/index.php/s/SB0aRJorAo3i3hb

PW: RDMwrx

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