Streaming microphone AND guitar from Garage Band #221
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I made some progresses 💪 but I've also found an issue. First of all I created this "Aggregated Device" and tested it with Zoom (note: MacBook Pro Microphone is first)
Zoom could detect my voice but not (for example) a song playing on Spotify (my system settings are Output --> Multi Output Device). Then I tried to change the order of inputs in "Aggregated Device" like this (note: BlackHole 16ch is first)
This time Zoom cannot detect my voice, but it can detect the Spotify song. If I select "BlackHole 16ch" as device in Zoom, it can detect the song from Spotify, but not my voice:
Outcome: the only detected device is the first one in the list. How do I make them both working at the same time? |
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You need to set BlackHole as your input into Zoom.
Then using a different program, GarageBand for example, mix your mic/input into BlackHole.
You can follow the steps here.
https://existential.audio/howto/StreamFromGarageBandToZoom.php
… On Oct 28, 2020, at 1:46 PM, Andrea Grandi ***@***.***> wrote:
I made some progresses 💪 but I've also found an issue.
First of all I created this "Aggregated Device" and tested it with Zoom (note: MacBook Pro Microphone is first)
<https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/636391/97494236-55b1b400-1966-11eb-993d-1f7be7ed6ca2.png>
Zoom could detect my voice but not (for example) a song playing on Spotify (my system settings are Output --> Multi Output Device).
Then I tried to change the order of inputs in "Aggregated Device" like this (note: BlackHole 16ch is first)
<https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/636391/97494402-8bef3380-1966-11eb-81f4-97edeaa480db.png>
This time Zoom cannot detect my voice, but it can detect the Spotify song.
Outcome: the only detected device is the first one in the list. How do I make them both working at the same time?
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Hi and thanks for your reply. As I mentioned at the beginning of my message, Garage Band is unable to mix both MacBook Microphone and the input from my bass Guitar. When you select the input device in Garage Band you can only select one device: if you select the microphone (like those instructions shows) you can't select Steinberg sound card and viceversa. |
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Well then you need some other sort of DAW or something similar.
… On Oct 28, 2020, at 2:19 PM, Andrea Grandi ***@***.***> wrote:
Hi and thanks for your reply. As I mentioned at the beginning of my message, Garage Band is unable to mix MacBook Microphone and the input from my bass Guitar.
When you select the input device in Garage Band you can only select one device: if you select the microphone (like those instructions shows) you can't select Steinberg sound card and viceversa.
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Do you think it could work if I simply connected another microphone to input 1 of my Steinberg sound card while bass guitar is connected to input 2? This way I could use a single input source |
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Maybe. Worth trying.
Did you already use an aggregate for the input into GarageBand?
… On Oct 28, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Andrea Grandi ***@***.***> wrote:
Do you think it could work if I simply connected another microphone to input 1 of my Steinberg sound card while bass guitar is connected to input 2? This way I could use a single input source
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No I haven't tried this. I will try it tomorrow (I don't have the laptop with me right now) but I suspect it will behave like Zoom before: the highest entry in "Aggregate Device" has priority and it's the only one being redirected. I will give it a try anyway and let you know, thanks. |
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No.
Aggregate into to Garage Band.
BlackHole into Zoom.
… On Oct 28, 2020, at 3:22 PM, Andrea Grandi ***@***.***> wrote:
No I haven't tried this. I will try it tomorrow (I don't have the laptop with me right now) but I suspect it will behave like Zoom before: the highest entry in "Aggregate Device" has priority and it's the only one being redirected. I will give it a try anyway and let you know, thanks.
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Hi @devinroth thanks for your advice yesterday, I made some progresses but I'm not done yet: now I can make Garage Band to record both from MacBook Mic and my bass guitar (Steinberg interface) at the same time but Zoom / Meet only hear the bass guitar. This is my current configuration Aggregate Device
Garage Band - Options
Garage Band - Tracks
Google Meet
OutcomeGoogle Meet (or Zoom with same configuration) can only hear the bass guitar sound and not my voice QuestionI've the feeling I'm getting really close to the solution and I'm probably only missing a minor thing to make everything work. Do you have any idea what I may be missing, please? Thanks again for your help |
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A curious thing: if with the same Google Meet configuration I click on Test, the microphone icon above detects the sound
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So, I just discovered another thing and I have also done a test using an external microphone, connected to Line 1 of my Steinberg. Both using the internal MacBook mic or the external one, the problem is the same: I can't hear the voice in Zoom / Youtube / Skype etc.... but I'm able to record it in Garage Band. If I activate the MONITORING (the icon that looks like an upside down WIFI signal) for the microphone track, I can hear it on Zoom / Skype / Meet etc... Now: if I activate the monitoring on the external microphone, it's all fine, but if I do it on internal one I hear a noise which will also go in the final recording. Last but not least: I've tried to record a "Live" video on Youtube and regardless if I include the microphone or not (I only include music from Spotify and bass guitar) the quality is very bad (if you want I can link you a video where I play... but I warn you: I don't play very well :P ) What else am I missing? |
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p.s: at this point I'm also tempted to try the "2ch" version, but I'm not sure what are the differences between the two versions. |
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You need to enable monitoring (orange button) on both tracks.
… On Oct 29, 2020, at 3:02 AM, Andrea Grandi ***@***.***> wrote:
Hi @devinroth thanks for your advice yesterday, I made some progresses but I'm not done yet: now I can make Garage Band to record both from MacBook Mic and my bass guitar (Steinberg interface) at the same time but Zoom / Meet only hear the bass guitar.
This is my current configuration
Aggregate Device
Garage Band - Options
Garage Band - Tracks
Track 1 is the bass guitar, configured on Input 2
Track 2 is the MacBook Mic configured on Input 3
Google Meet
Outcome
Google Meet (or Zoom with same configuration) can only hear the bass guitar sound and not my voice
Question
I've the feeling I'm getting really close to the solution and I'm probably only missing a minor thing to make everything work. Do you have any idea what I may be missing, please? Thanks again for your help
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Thanks. Enabling monitoring on both tracks it works, but if I use "MacBook Pro Mic" there is a lot of noise (which is not present if I use an external pro microphone). My final workaround to make everything work will be to buy an external microphone I can connect to my Steinberg. Thanks again for your help. Once I've sorted out everything I will probably blog a complete tutorial, because I know a lot of people who may have the exact same requirement. |
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I managed to streaming both tracks with my Scarlett 2i2 Interface, with guitar and mic, but with feedback... i have to use headphones |
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Awesome.
… On Oct 29, 2020, at 7:20 AM, Andrea Grandi ***@***.***> wrote:
You need to enable monitoring (orange button) on both tracks.
Thanks. Enabling monitoring on both tracks it works, but if I use "MacBook Pro Mic" there is a lot of noise (which is not present if I use an external pro microphone). My final workaround to make everything work will be to buy an external microphone I can connect to my Steinberg.
Thanks again for your help. Once I've sorted out everything I will probably blog a complete tutorial, because I know a lot of people who may have the exact same requirement.
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Hi all,
Can anybody please help? I really need to solve this as I have an audition this week. |
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You need a 2ch device as the top device in a multi output.
https://github.com/ExistentialAudio/BlackHole/wiki/Multi-Output-Device#4-select-output-devices
Devin Roth
…On Mar 14, 2021, 2:52 PM -0700, erinhyvin ***@***.***>, wrote:
Hi all,
I followed all these steps and I can't find what is happening.
I am trying to go on google meet and be able to sing and play guitar. I have a microphone and guitar plugged into Garage Band with an interface (Scarlett) and I follow all the steps and no sounds comes up on google Hangouts. I am attaching screenshots of every step, can you please tell me what am I doing wrong?
1. Configurated my settings on Blackhole
2. Modified the audio settings on Garage Band
3. Started a google meet session and after modifying the settings to the ones you see in the pic below, i can hear the sound on my headphones but the person in the meeting can't. (By the way as my speakers I have Multi-Output Device)
Can anybody please help? I really need to solve this as I have an audition this week.
Thank you!
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Hi Devin, |
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the 2ch (or 16ch, depending how you have configured it) is the BlackHole device. |
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Did you even look at the link I sent?
Devin Roth
…On Mar 15, 2021, 9:27 AM -0700, erinhyvin ***@***.***>, wrote:
Hi Devin,
What is a 2ch device can you please show me a picture im pretty new at this. Are the rest of my settings right? Please let me know. Thanks
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Hi Devin,
Do you know what am i doing wrong? sorry cause since English is not my first language maybe I'm missing something. thank you! |
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Your multi-output device needs to have the blackhole 16-ch (aka 2ch) device at the top. |
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Hello folks,
I've installed BlackHole today and tried to follow this tutorial https://existential.audio/howto/StreamFromGarageBandToGoogleMeet.php
but unfortunately it doesn't do what I want. I will now try to be more specific.
The main reason why the above tutorial doesn't work for me is because it only uses one input, while I need to use two and I don't understand how to combine them.
What I want to achieve
I want to be able to make a Zoom / Skype / Google Meet normal call, but the other person needs to be able to hear both my voice (coming from MacBook Internal Microphone) and my Bass Guitar coming from my sound interface.
Context
I want to be able to take bass guitar lessons remotely, so the teacher needs to be able to hear both my voice and my bass guitar, and of course I need to be able to hear the teacher in my headphones.
My Gear and Setup
brew)My usual configuration
I normally have this configuration in Garage Band
What I have tried to far
Configuration 1
Multi Output Device
Garage Band
Google Meet
Outcome
I can hear my bass guitar in my headphones (as usual) but Google Meet doesn't get any sound (you see when it gets sound because the icon next to the microphone is animated. I also tried to have a friend joining the call, he couldn't hear any sound nor my voice
Other configurations
I've also tried other configurations (I haven't recorded any screenshots, but I can take them if you think they may be useful to understand the issue), one where I also created an "Aggregated Device" with both internal microphone and "BlackHole 16ch" and another one with internal microphone and Steinberg / Multi Output, but none was working as expected.
In the best case I got: my friend was able to either listen to my voice or to my bass guitar (depending what I was selecting as Input in Google Meet) but not both. Also, unfortunately I didn't take note of this configuration so I don't remember how to reproduce it.
Conclusion
Can anyone please tell me what is the right combination for what I want to achieve?
Thanks! 🙏
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