diff --git a/CHANGES.rst b/CHANGES.rst
index ee9ae314e..015b1ca3e 100644
--- a/CHANGES.rst
+++ b/CHANGES.rst
@@ -15,6 +15,12 @@ Changelog
   empty, it was not emptying the value on new item, now it is the case except
   for `title` that can not be empty.
   [gbastien]
+- Make `MeetingItem.marginalNotes` field editable by `MeetingManagers` when item
+  is `presented` (before it was when item was `itemfrozen`) so votes are also
+  editable when item is `presented` as it relies on same permission
+  `WriteMarginalNotes` that we should change name to a more generic name like
+  `WriteClosedMeetingMeetingManagersReservedFields`.
+  [gbastien]
 
 4.2.13 (2024-12-06)
 -------------------
diff --git a/src/Products/PloneMeeting/model/PloneMeeting.zargo b/src/Products/PloneMeeting/model/PloneMeeting.zargo
index 9dc5f72a4..ec1c49e71 100644
Binary files a/src/Products/PloneMeeting/model/PloneMeeting.zargo and b/src/Products/PloneMeeting/model/PloneMeeting.zargo differ
diff --git a/src/Products/PloneMeeting/profiles/default/workflows/meetingitem_workflow/definition.xml b/src/Products/PloneMeeting/profiles/default/workflows/meetingitem_workflow/definition.xml
index c578c94c9..9da3a7fec 100644
--- a/src/Products/PloneMeeting/profiles/default/workflows/meetingitem_workflow/definition.xml
+++ b/src/Products/PloneMeeting/profiles/default/workflows/meetingitem_workflow/definition.xml
@@ -357,6 +357,7 @@
   <permission-map name="PloneMeeting: Write marginal notes"
                   acquired="False">
    <permission-role>Manager</permission-role>
+   <permission-role>MeetingManager</permission-role>
   </permission-map>
   <permission-map name="Review portal content"
                   acquired="False">
diff --git a/src/Products/PloneMeeting/tests/testWorkflows.py b/src/Products/PloneMeeting/tests/testWorkflows.py
index 2982f6e9c..491d60ede 100644
--- a/src/Products/PloneMeeting/tests/testWorkflows.py
+++ b/src/Products/PloneMeeting/tests/testWorkflows.py
@@ -973,26 +973,27 @@ def test_pm_ItemMarginalNotes(self):
         item = self.create('MeetingItem')
         item.setDecision(self.decisionText)
         # field not writeable
-        marginalNotesField = item.getField('marginalNotes')
-        self.assertFalse(marginalNotesField.writeable(item))
+        marginal_notes_field = item.getField('marginalNotes')
+        self.assertFalse(marginal_notes_field.writeable(item))
         self.assertFalse(item.mayQuickEdit('marginalNotes'))
         self.validateItem(item)
 
         # as MeetingManager
         self.changeUser('pmManager')
         # field not writeable
-        self.assertFalse(marginalNotesField.writeable(item))
+        self.assertFalse(marginal_notes_field.writeable(item))
         self.assertFalse(item.mayQuickEdit('marginalNotes'))
+        # writeable when "presented"
         meeting = self.create('Meeting')
         self.presentItem(item)
         self.assertEqual(item.query_state(), 'presented')
-        self.assertFalse(marginalNotesField.writeable(item))
-        self.assertFalse(item.mayQuickEdit('marginalNotes'))
+        self.assertTrue(marginal_notes_field.writeable(item))
+        self.assertTrue(item.mayQuickEdit('marginalNotes'))
 
         # writeable when meeting frozen
         self.freezeMeeting(meeting)
         self.assertEqual(item.query_state(), 'itemfrozen')
-        self.assertTrue(marginalNotesField.writeable(item))
+        self.assertTrue(marginal_notes_field.writeable(item))
         self.assertTrue(item.mayQuickEdit('marginalNotes'))
         # as other fields
         obsField = item.getField('observations')
@@ -1003,7 +1004,7 @@ def test_pm_ItemMarginalNotes(self):
         self.closeMeeting(meeting)
         self.assertEqual(meeting.query_state(), 'closed')
         self.assertEqual(item.query_state(), 'accepted')
-        self.assertTrue(marginalNotesField.writeable(item))
+        self.assertTrue(marginal_notes_field.writeable(item))
         self.assertTrue(item.mayQuickEdit('marginalNotes'))
         # but not other fields
         self.assertFalse(obsField.writeable(item))