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Alternative chapter titles? #29

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ThrawnCA opened this issue May 23, 2023 · 7 comments
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Alternative chapter titles? #29

ThrawnCA opened this issue May 23, 2023 · 7 comments

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@ThrawnCA
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Many of the chapters have different titles on different sites, particularly SIYE. For example, chapter 1 is "Back to Privet Drive..." on fanficauthors.net and phoenixsong.net, but is "Welcome to Sunny Surrey" on SIYE.

How should we handle this?

@IntermittentlyRupert
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Is there one version where there's a good reason to think it's more authoritative/better edited/preferred/whatever? If so, let's use that, otherwise let's keep things as is until an authoritative version is clear (presumably this would be "wherever the next chapter gets uploaded first").

@ThrawnCA
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Well, I'm guessing that the existing titles were collected from FFN, which is the only site where chapter 43 was uploaded. So if we're choosing one winner, it's probably already done.

Is there a good way to record the alternate titles?

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IntermittentlyRupert commented May 23, 2023

I'll just dump it here and we can revisit if we need to. Here's the current chapter names on each site and how they match up.
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Chapter hpnofp-ebook (FanFiction.net) Sink Into Your Eyes FanFic Authors Phoenix Song Royal Road consistent name?
1 Prologue: The End of Days Prologue: The End of Days The End of Days Prologue: The End of Days Chapter One 🟡
2 Back to Privet Drive Welcome to Sunny Surrey Back to Privet Drive... Back to Privet Drive... Back to Privet Drive
3 Making Waves Back to Hogwarts Making Waves Making Waves Making Waves
4 The Letters of Autumn Owl Post and Broomsticks The Letters of Fall The Letters of Autumn The Letters of Fall
5 A Changed Halloween Quidditch is life Ch-ch-changes... and a decidely different Halloween Ch-ch-changes... and a Decidedly Different Halloween Ch-ch-changes... and a decidely different Halloween
6 Christmas at Hogwarts Christmas, Confrontations, and a Cunning Plan... Christmas at Hogwarts and a Draconian Solution Christmas at Hogwarts and a Draconian Solution Christmas at Hogwarts and a Draconian Solution
7 A Quarrel with Quirrell A Quarrel with Quirrell A Quarrel with Quirrell A Quarrel with Quirrell A Quarrel with Quirrell
8 The Leaving Feast Back to Life, Back to Reality... End of Year One... End of Term End of Year One...
9 A Word with the Weasleys Interlude with Molly A Word with the Weasleys A Word with the Weasleys A Word with the Weasleys
10 Worst Birthday Ever A situation out of control Worst Birthday Ever Worst Birthday Ever Worst Birthday Ever
11 A Daring Rescue A Daring Rescue A Daring Rescue A Daring Rescue A Daring Rescue
12 Doing the Mungo Shuffle Mending at Mungo's Doing the Mungo Shuffle... Doing the Mungo Shuffle Doing the Mungo Shuffle...
13 A Granger Interlude Hermione's Research and Unwholesomely Clever Muggles A Granger Interlude A Granger Interlude A Granger Interlude
14 A Dish Best Served Cold A Trip to Diagon Alley A Dish Best Served Cold... A Dish Best Served Cold A Dish Best Served Cold...
15 Moonlight Discussions Birthdays and Court Days Moonlit Discussions, Occlumency Lessons, and a Guardianship Hearing Discussions, Lessons, and a Hearing Moonlit Discussions, Occlumency Lessons, and a Guardianship Hearing
16 A Visit to Sunny Azkaban A visit to Sunny Azkaban A Visit to Sunny Azkaban A Visit to Sunny Azkaban A Visit to Sunny Azkaban
17 A Summer Seen Through Brown Eyes Ginny's very odd year A Summer Seen Through Warm Brown Eyes A Summer Seen Through Warm Brown Eyes A Summer Seen Through Warm Brown Eyes
18 A Visit from the Eldest Last Weekend at The Burrow A Visit from the Eldest... A Visit from the Eldest A Visit from the Eldest...
19 An Interesting Start of Term Back at Hogwarts! A Most Interesting Start of Term... A Most Interesting Start of Term A Most Interesting Start of Term
20 Dumbledore's Office An Interlude with Dumbledore...& Draco Gets His An Interlude in Dumbledore's Office - and Draco Receives his Due... In Dumbledore's Office An Interlude in Dumbledore's Office - and Draco Receives his Due...
21 Sirius & a Quidditch Spectacle Sirius Issues and a Quidditch Spectacle Sirius, Spectacles, and a Quidditch Spectacle Sirius, Spectacles, and a Quidditch Spectacle Sirius, Spectacles, and a Quidditch Spectacle
22 The Dueling Club The Duelling Club The Duelling Club The Duelling Club The Duelling Club
23 The Christmas Express The Christmas Express The Christmas Express and a Large Surprise The Christmas Express and a Large Surprise The Christmas Express and a Large Surprise
24 Christmas at The Burrow Christmas at The Burrow Christmas at The Burrow Christmas at The Burrow Christmas at The Burrow
25 Mistletoe & Misshapen Messengers Mistletoe and Misshapen Musical Messengers Mistletoe and Misshapen Musical Messengers Mistletoe and Misshapen Musical Messengers Mistletoe and Misshapen Musical Messengers 🟡
26 Miserable Uncertainties Miserable Uncertainties Miserable Uncertainties Miserable Uncertainties Miserable Uncertainties
27 All Hell Breaks Loose All Hell Breaks Loose! ...All Hell Breaks Loose! All Hell Breaks Loose! ...All Hell Breaks Loose! 🟡
28 Conversations & Confrontations Conversations, Confrontations, & Quidditch Conversations, Confrontations, and Quidditch! Conversations, Confrontations, and Quidditch! Conversations, Confrontations, and Quidditch!
29 A Relatively Pleasant Start A Relatively Pleasant Start... A Relatively Pleasant Start A Relatively Pleasant Start A Relatively Pleasant Start 🟡
30 A Busy Summer A Busy Summer A Busy Summer A Busy Summer A Busy Summer
31 Harsh Words Harsh Words Harsh Words Harsh Words Harsh Words
32 Fear and Loathing Fear and Loathing Fear and Loathing Fear and Loathing Fear and Loathing
33 Destructive Impulses Destructive Impulses Destructive Impulses Destructive Impulses Destructive Impulses
34 Life, Death, and Quidditch Life, Death, & Quidditch Life, Death, & Quidditch Life, Death and Quidditch Life, Death, & Quidditch 🟡
35 A War of Words A War of Words A War of Words A War of Words A War of Words
36 The Slughorn that Stole Christmas The Slughorn that Stole Christmas The Slughorn that Stole Christmas The Slughorn Who Stole Christmas The Slughorn that Stole Christmas 🟡
37 Return to the Chamber Return to the Chamber Return to the Chamber Return to the Chamber Return to the Chamber
38 The Quiet Before the Storm The Quiet Before the Storm The Quiet Before the Storm The Quiet Before the Storm The Quiet Before the Storm
39 The Battle of Hogwarts Chapter 39 The Battle of Hogwarts The Battle of Hogwarts
40 The Quidditch World Cup Quidditch World Cup Quidditch World Cup Quidditch World Cup 🟡
41 The Not So Welcoming Feast The Not So Welcoming Feast The Not So Welcoming Feast
42 Goblet Problems Goblet Problems Goblet Problems
43 A Stunning Victory A Stunning Victory

@lschierer
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The most permanent way is as branches.

@ThrawnCA
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The symbols for chapters 25, 36, and 40 should be "close match", along with possibly 21.

22 should be an exact match. Also, 16 differs only in whether "visit" is capitalised, which is basically an exact match (lowercase is an error, title case is clearly the standard).

@ThrawnCA
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ThrawnCA commented Dec 20, 2023

You could add Royal Road to the table now. I think it's copying from the Fanfic Authors values.

@IntermittentlyRupert
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Updated the table. Royal Road is definitely looking like a more or less consensus answer to what the chapter titles should be. SIYE looks like the odd one out.

The exceptions I'd make are:

  • Ch. 4: Keep it unchanged. "Autumn" is more common in UK English.
  • Ch. 8: This is the only one without at least 3 consistent sources. I think switch to Royal Road.
  • Ch. 34: I think keep it unchanged. This is the only Royal Road title with an ampersand instead of "and", and I'd rather be consistent.

I'll take a final look when the next chapter gets released and update things accordingly, but happy to accept a PR in the interim if anyone wants it sooner.

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