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Thanks Ada. This is very useful. A couple of points to add...
I'd love to think about how to integrate the land variables into ADF as that seems like a sustainable approach. Do you have a link to the code so I can think about what it might entail? Thanks!! |
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Thanks Ada and Rosie! I just made some updates for the CAM diagnostics so that it will adapt to the new CAM file tags, and will manage to produce all the CAM diagnostics except for those on the pressure levels (e.g., contour plots on horizontal levels and vertical profile plots). You will find a sample output here: I just created a draft pull request for such updates. So it is not implemented yet in the installed copy on NIRD. I will merge it soon after that I confirm it looks OK. It should have some relevant diagnostics for the land components. Regarding the land diagnostics, I may need some more information to figure out how will the old NCL-based diagnostic tool can work for FATES. I make need to talk to you later on this. For the new tool apart from the NCL-based tool, as I can tell now, I would prefer using iLAMB instead of expanding ADF (,except that NCAR will have initiative to do so), as this may make it difficult to merge future ADF updates from NCAR. |
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@rosiealice @adagj @YanchunHe @maritsandstad - a few clarifications below.
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Good point @mvertens. I guess ADF is written in python? (is it?) I wonder how hard it would be to wrap in the ESMF regridding. Should we try and discuss this a bit on friday? |
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I installed ADF under:
One should be able to load them directly: However, I have not test it further with more customised recipes. First of all, I have very little idea on the grids of the land models. What I can see is that:
The NCL-based clm diagnostic also remap the CLM output to a regular lat/lon grid with the ESMF library: https://www.ncl.ucar.edu/Applications/ESMF.shtml If the NCL-based ESMF library can also handle the ne30pg3 grid, then it will straightforward to apply the diagnostic tool on the new FATES output, as the diagnostic are mostly handling the regridded files. |
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@YanchunHe - thanks for the clarifications. My understanding has been that we want to move away from relying on NCL moving forwards since it is no longer supported. @maritsandstad was using XESMF to do the mapping - and that is in python. I didn't think we want to use the older CLM diagnostic package - but maybe that is all we have right now if we can do the remapping first? @maritsandstad - could you please clarify what you did for looking at CTSM diagnostic output when it was running on an ne30pg3 grid? |
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@YanchunHe - thanks so much for the clarification. That sounds like an excellent plan! Thanks for working on this. |
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Now I manage to produce some test diagnostics for the CLM climatologies. It is now works for
The test output is here, please have a look: I am working at time series (trend) diagnostics, i.e., set 1 and set 6. And hopefully be ready soon. set 4 will not work in the foreseeing future, as it requires vertical atmospheric output, which can not be handled right now. Please let me know if anything more is needed (but I will only be able to work more on this again in the next year). |
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Now I commit these changes, and will be ready to implement these changes. As I wrote in the pull request, there is small explanation/guide for these changes: For the new spectral element version of CAM.Call the For example:
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Sample output: For the new CLM diagnostics:
Sample output:
Then
and change in the then execute the script:
Note, for the CMIP6 version of CLM, the diagnostic only works for some simulations with the monthly averaged field stored in files of each individual months. For those with 12-monthly files stored in one single file of a year, will not work. There is difficulty for NCO to deal with these name conventions. |
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Hi all. For the sake of a straw man, here is a list of diagnostics to be used with FATES runs. BENCHMARKS IN SET1SOME OF THESE, IN BOLD, ARE POST-PROCESSED FROM >1 OUTPUT VARIABLE. #DRIVERS #RUNOFF #SNOW #ALBEDOS (will have to work out how the first four are calculated #FATES variables.. MODEL ONLY#MISC #RADIATION FLUXES #HEAT FLUXES #ENERGY STATE #WATER STATE #WATER FLUXES #PLANT STATE #ECOSYSTEM STATE #ALLOCATION #FLUXES #SEEDS #LITTER #PHENOLOGY #FIRE |
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Hi, Rosie and I, we were discussing potential steps towards coupling the land to ocean via riverine transport of tracers through MOSART. While Mariana, Mat and I are working on the technical side to enable a flexible tracer transport through MOSART, it would be helpful to keep an eye on land carbon and nutrients that end up in the river network to get the right amount of those to the river network. For this, it would be helpful to have land diagnostics in place that allow to trace those (potential) fluxes during the land tuning process. In terms of the receiving ocean biogeochemistry side, we currently have the riverine input of: |
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At the moment, there are no functioning land diagnostics for NorESM2.5 simulations. Since it's crucial that we can analyze the land component of NorESM, we need to discuss the best path forward. Below are some options and considerations:
NCL Diagnostics Package for NorESM2.5:
One approach is to adapt the older NCL diagnostics package for use with NorESM2.5. This package may not work out-of-the-box due to differences in file naming and variable formats, but Yanchun is currently working on updates. We should assess how much work is needed to get it fully functional for the latest model version.
CUPiD (CESM Unified Postprocessing and Diagnostics):
CESM is developing CUPiD, a new diagnostics tool designed for all model components, including land. Once available, CUPiD should offer a more integrated solution than NCL. However, it may be too early to consider integrating CUPiD with NorESM at this stage, as it's still in development.
ILAMB (International Land Model Benchmarking):
ILAMB is mainly a benchmarking tool for comparing land model performance against observations. We need to confirm whether ILAMB is installed on NIRD and available for all NorESM users, or if we need to set it up. ILAMB should serve as a complementary tool for model evaluation.
ADF for Land Diagnostics:
Could we potentially adapt the Atmospheric Diagnostics Framework (ADF) to handle basic land variables as well? It might provide a straightforward solution for plotting key land variables, depending on how challenging the adaptation would be.
@rosiealice @kjetilaas @mvertens @maritsandstad
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