*new feature* Course Completion Reset period per group

[gemguardian]

We run courses with serveral groups, it would be nice if we could set a Course Completion Reset Period per group.
The message and what to reset does not change.

@danmarsden if you think this is a valid request, then - if you don't mind - I can discuss with the team to create the change code. I am just not sure if:

1. There should be a site admin setting to activate this feature, or that we just look at "are groups being used".
2. I am thinking very simple in a 'line' for each group where you can set period. But I can imagine that people might want to do this similar as with the Restrict Access but it feels 'overcomplicated' - what are your thoughts on this.

and maybe I am missing other things to concider.

• Gemma

[danmarsden]

this is something supported in another commercial lms that is based on Moodle ;-) - using something called certifications and audiences.

I suspect something like this would be a decent amount of effort within a plugin - and will make the UI a lot more complex than it currently is so it would need to be designed pretty well - so yes, possible, but something that would require a bit of development and some good design.

[gemguardian]

@danmarsden I am very much aware of it - it sounds simple but there a lot of 'what if' scenario's here.

It is not directly necessary but when it comes up, shall I draw up a UI and share it in here? I really want your insights in this, so we won't miss things

[danmarsden]

yeah - go for it - interested to see what you come up with!

[danmarsden]

Hi @gemguardian did you get any further looking into this one in the end? - can we make the main options around archiving/handling of attempts/deletion all exactly the same for all groups and just define a different schedule per group?

that would mean we might be able to add a new recompletion "type" that just allows a different schedule to be set for each group rather than having to build out an api and the ability for different deletion/archiving settings per group.

[abias]

Hi Dan, hi @gemguardian ,

one of our customer is interested in this feature as well and we might be able to fund at least a part of the development, depending on the size.

Your question, Dan, about the details is reasonable.
I will check this with the customer and will post some details here and soon as I have them.

Cheers,
Alex

[gemguardian]

@danmarsden - we are currently not working on this, but I have a client that is interested, for them it would be ok to have the archive/handling or attempts/deletions all exactly the same fo all groups.

[abias]

Hi all,

I am really sorry, but it seems as if there was a misunderstanding between our customer support and our customer. As it stands now, we do not need this feature unfortunately.

Cheers,
Alex

[Tsheke]

Hi @danmarsden , @gemguardian ,
This a good feature. Another idea would be to look for way of integrating the 'availability' (of course module) like feature. This way, one can set recompletion criteria based on profile fields too (a part from course, cohort, ...) while keeping table and UI relatively simple. Technically, instead of using a row per condition in local_recompletion_config table, one could use just a single row (or few rows) per course and store all critaria in an encoded json like the 'availability' field of course_modules table. For the UI, If one can find a way to use o copy the core feature of the 'availability' UI, things may become easy and extensibles. In continuing education, using profile fields could be helpful.

[danmarsden]

Interesting idea - I can see how using the nested configuration UI that the restriction stuff uses could provide some value. I think there's quite a lot of work involved in doing that though so feel free to reach out if you would like to fund the development (I work for the Moodle Partner Catalyst IT).

In the short term @gemguardian I think a simpler option that adds a new recompletion type that let you set a different date per group would be something I'd accept as a PR if you ended up spending any time on it too!

thanks again!

[gemguardian]

@danmarsden to be sure we understand each other correctly:

We add a new Recompletion Type: Group

The teacher sees a list of all groups created, or is it better that the teacher selects a group?

The teacher can set a recompletion period per group

I don't have time any time soon to add this to my workload, could you make a qoute for it?

[danmarsden]

Hi @gemguardian - flick me a private message or create an internal work request in our wrms system and I can provide an estimate there - (I don't add quotes/estimates to github.) - thanks!

[gemguardian]

@danmarsden done

[jrojas-garrido]

Hi @danmarsden , @gemguardian ,

I would like to know if there is a positive answer after the quote requested by @danmarsden.

If the solution is in development or it is still just a open ticket ?

Also information on how to eventually found, but it would be something very detailed cause we have never done it before.

Thank you.

Guillermo Rojas

[gemguardian]

@jrojas-garrido I have received the qoute from Catalyst, though my client decided not to move forward on this.
I leave it up to @danmarsden to keep it open or not.