What about Petzi? #160
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They don't seem to have a terms of service forbidding scraping. Is it fair game? |
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Generally, yes why not. However, my first concern would be duplicates. I haven't really properly tackled this yet and don't know if there is a simple solution due to inconsistent naming. |
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Yeah, duplicates would be the problem there. Also, I think some Petzi members don't list their free concerts. |
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Hey, I'm from PETZI technical workgroup :) I just found this discussion as we were discussing about data sharing. I comment to just let you know we are open for discussion on data sharing (and we have better interfaces then scrapping) ... even if it won't solve the duplicate issue ;-) |
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Wow. That's wonderful! For what it's worth I've tried to make contact a few times, but I guess whoever reads the email filters this stuff out before it gets to you. In any case I'd love to collaborate directly. |
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Yep there is a chance that kind of request may be filtered at different level, sorry for that. For now, we can only provide "private" event endpoint, but on the year roadmap we have public event endpoint based on OLE (https://www.hinto.net/en/arbeiten-mit-hinto/ole-widget/ole-in-detail-70.html) that will be implemented. Do you see or would you prefer another option ? Do you want to wait for public endpoint or private one could already be interesting ? |
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I'm certainly willing to explore both options, presuming @jakopako is. My main concern would be to avoid duplicating events, but I have a couple of ideas about that. Goskyr has the ability to filter, so for those Petzi members who do not list their free events, we can just filter out any ticketed events and get them from Petzi instead. In general this is going to lead to a higher quality and more stable feed. Further down the line I guess we could try to convince the members to list their free events too. Just coaxing people away from Instagram is already a chore. Anyway, yeah! Let's see what we can do in collaboration! |
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Maybe I can give a few hints on this. Some PETZI member do not use the agenda at all, some use it only as an agenda and some use the ticketing system. So not sure if you will not have mismatch / duplicate but it's definitively a start. Maybe filtering by date could be an option, it's very uncommon to have multiple show the same date (even if it can happens in festivals)
We try since ages ... but some help is always welcome :) |
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It's like herding cats! Or worse. I've reached out to the people who run Decadanse in Geneva about interlinking, and made the point that what they have there is kind of magical, so I don't want to touch it, just link to and from it. |
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Hey @tits4net thanks for jumping into this discussion! @MarkJaroski I agree we should definitely explore both options. I guess we'll need to figure out how to convert between the different event formats but that should be feasible. I'm not sure if we should extend goskyr or just write a new tool/script for this. Maybe the latter would be easier. The duplicates issue can probably be tackled with filters, as you're suggesting @MarkJaroski As long as just one source (any event website, petzi api... ) is 'responsible' for a venue it should be easy. Looking forward to any kind of collaboration! |
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OLE is a semantic meta format inside of HTML, and we already use it in
several places! Occasionally I think goskyr even picks it up automatically
on generate mode.
So we wouldn't need a separate tool for that.
…On Sat, 10 Feb 2024, 08:21 jakopako, ***@***.***> wrote:
Hey @tits4net <https://github.com/tits4net> thanks for jumping into this
discussion! @MarkJaroski <https://github.com/MarkJaroski> I agree we
should definitely explore both options. I guess we'll need to figure out
how to convert between the different event formats but that should be
feasible. I'm not sure if we should extend goskyr or just write a new
tool/script for this. Maybe the latter would be easier.
The duplicates issue can probably be tackled with filters, as you're
suggesting @MarkJaroski <https://github.com/MarkJaroski> As long as just
one source (any event website, petzi api... ) is 'responsible' for a venue
it should be easy.
Looking forward to any kind of collaboration!
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Oooh haha good to know! |
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Generally, yes why not. However, my first concern would be duplicates. I haven't really properly tackled this yet and don't know if there is a simple solution due to inconsistent naming.