Allow Steam native and wine to run at the same time

[SFort]

You currently can't run steam nativley and under wine simultaneously
see steam-for-linux/4412
in the issue a solution is shown, could the Wine steam runner implement it by default or optionally?

[ghost]

It fully depends if the issue must be fixed within Steam application code or not. On the Wine side, it might be possible to fake/change the network connection to something that doesn't conflict.

But, Valve could have code in Steam for any reason to check eg the computer name to obtain a successful connection and it can't be duplicate (who knows). To add to that, Wine has access to the computer hardware so there can be duplicate if its the right thing.

(or whatever else)

I think the Lutris devs would probably just import the games direct to Lutris instead of doing this. If its in Lutris there's much less reason to have two Steam's open anyway (something I don't see a point to anyway).

[strycore]

It is no longer needed to run steam in wine and we are going to delete the wine steam runner.

[SFort]

@strycore Running steam in wine is clearly still usefull for issues like the one linked
besides that it's also generally more stable with less glitches then proton for certain games
(I'm assuming that is why your removing the wine steam runner since you didn't specify a reason)

[SFort]

@byte1024 The reason for having two versions of steam open is so you can run
steam chat and other features nativley(since they don't work under wine steam)
while being able to run games that won't launch outside of wine steam

[ghost]

@byte1024 The reason for having two versions of steam open is so you can run
steam chat and other features nativley(since they don't work under wine steam)
while being able to run games that won't launch outside of wine steam

I believe other Wine versions can be used with Steam anyway instead of Proton.

Either way, if Lutris can get the game from steam its still rather very minimal. I view changing the tactic as more worthwhile than fitting things to the tactic.

[strycore]

Until proven otherwise, Proton is just as capable as WineSteam.
WineSteam has been increasingly glitchy and unusable over time, we strongly that anyone still using it migrate their games to Proton and stop using WineSteam as fast as possible.

[SFort]

@strycore
Proton/3886
It compleatly prevent's some games from booting, outside of wine steam.

There are several seasure enducing bugs that occur when running rust with proton on mesa/amd like rainbow colored water(they don't on wine steam)

I do belive the steam part of wine steam has been glitchy as several of it's components don't work under wine
which is why i submitted this issue in the first place as those componets would not matter if this workaround was used

and yes the proton issue will probably Eventually get fixed (open since May) but it's nice having a fallback that does not have protons problems and wine steam is perfectly functional for that