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What are some open source alternatives? #4462

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mwnu opened this issue Oct 30, 2024 · 37 comments
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What are some open source alternatives? #4462

mwnu opened this issue Oct 30, 2024 · 37 comments

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@mwnu
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mwnu commented Oct 30, 2024

I found:

  1. https://github.com/linkwarden/linkwarden
  2. https://codeberg.org/readeck/readeck
  3. https://github.com/go-shiori/shiori
  4. https://github.com/hoarder-app/hoarder
  5. https://github.com/wallabag/wallabag
@xplosionmind
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Readeck is great! I have been testing it for a while and it’s truly lovely. It just lacks a client for offline use, but I don’t mind it considering how fast and polished it is!

@sreenivasanac
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Is anyone self-hosting Omnivore? Or is it too much of hassle / difficult?
And is it risky also, that we don't have anywhere if things go wrong / we need help / tech-stack needs update?

@thiswillbeyourgithub
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thiswillbeyourgithub commented Oct 31, 2024

I just asked wallabag wether it could import from omnivore

Also asked linkwarden: linkwarden/linkwarden#808

And hoarder: hoarder-app/hoarder#602

And readeck: https://codeberg.org/readeck/readeck/issues/274

@thiswillbeyourgithub
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thiswillbeyourgithub commented Oct 31, 2024

I'm not sure about something. Do those bookmarking alternatives handle highlighting or just archiving? Because they don't seem to mention highlighting as a feature compared to omnivore. Readeck seems to do but I'm not sure about the others.

@chiimagnus
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I'm not sure about something. Do those bookmarking alternatives handle highlighting or just archiving? Because they don't seem to mention highlighting as a feature compared to omnivore. Readeck seems to do but I'm not sure about the others.

yes,there is no app that has highlighting, but Twilar, linkwarden. i can't find better apps than omnivore.

@chiimagnus
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I just asked wallabag wether it could import from omnivore

Also asked linkwarden: linkwarden/linkwarden#808

And hoarder: hoarder-app/hoarder#602

might this issue will help you

#4461

@thiswillbeyourgithub
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thiswillbeyourgithub commented Oct 31, 2024

yes,there is no app that has highlighting, but Twilar, linkwarden. i can't find better apps than omnivore.

Twilar does not seem to be FOSS. Also not sure I understand, do you mean that linkwarden indeed supports highlights?

@thiswillbeyourgithub
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Update : readeck can import directly from omnivore's api (apparently it contains more info than the export). Source

@chiimagnus
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yes,there is no app that has highlighting, but Twilar, linkwarden. i can't find better apps than omnivore.

Twilar does not seem to be FOSS. Also not sure I understand, do you mean that linkwarden indeed supports highlights?

sorry, linkwarden doesn't support, i misread it.😣

@QuAzI
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QuAzI commented Oct 31, 2024

I checked wallabag, but they don't have RSS feeds in self-hosted version, also UI isn't so lightweight for reading.
It's a pity that even RSS stopped working since 10/29/24 in Omnivore. Maybe some active fork with the community?

@yestoday2009
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yestoday2009 commented Oct 31, 2024

Update : readeck can import directly from omnivore's api (apparently it contains more info than the export). Source

I tried the importer, but highlights are not imported. @thiswillbeyourgithub

@QuAzI
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QuAzI commented Oct 31, 2024

@mwnu I checked all of them and only wallabag looks like a normal alive read-it-later app. But the design is terrible. I chosen omnivore after wallabag because design more convenient for reading and keyboard navigation was fine
https://github.com/linkwarden/linkwarden - just links aggregator? I don't understand why they wrote about Link Rot and page copies, while in demo only links present.
https://codeberg.org/readeck/readeck - Secure Connection Failed. Nothing works at the moment
https://github.com/hoarder-app/hoarder - self-hosted links aggregator with notes?
https://github.com/go-shiori/shiori - only self-hosted. No feeds at all. Strange navigation. No highlights and notes. No settings (fonts customization). But the simplistic design looks interesting and parser works fine for my sites. Maybe some RSS aggregator can feed it with links via API... content stored in AppData\Local\shiori doesn't look readable for humans and other apps

@tcelestino
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Is anyone self-hosting Omnivore? Or is it too much of hassle / difficult? And is it risky also, that we don't have anywhere if things go wrong / we need help / tech-stack needs update?

@sreenivasanac, I've been reviewing the Omnivore documentation on self-hosted deployment (https://blog.omnivore.app/p/deploying-a-minimal-self-hosted-omnivore). I'm nearly finished setting it up for personal use. The process has been quite straightforward, though I will miss having access to the iOS app.

@mtrifiro
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I would pay someone to host this for me ;-)

@thiswillbeyourgithub
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Has anyone checked wether pdf are exported in the exported archive? I used a lot of links towards pdf as well as send local only pdf that I might not have anymore. Are they part of the archive somewhere? Do I have to wget some special links?

@sreenivasanac
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sreenivasanac commented Nov 1, 2024

thanks @tcelestino
Did you use GCP ? Does it work with any other cloud provider? Can we use Vercel or AWS? What is the best?
Did you need to do anything else, which was not there in the instructions in the blog?

@Quorafind
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Quorafind commented Nov 1, 2024

I created a open-source tool to help you export all omnivore data to markdown(with downloaded attachments) : https://omnivore-to-md.vercel.app/

https://github.com/Quorafind/Omnivore-to-MD

@kfstorm
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kfstorm commented Nov 1, 2024

I just built a simple self-host service to replace Omnivore. It's built on top of awesome open-source projects. The codebase is quite small and it's easy to be customized for your needs because everything is local.

It's better to combine this service with tools like Git and Obsidian to make articles live forever.

https://github.com/kfstorm/carnivore

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@QuAzI
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QuAzI commented Nov 2, 2024

Wallabag import
wallabag/wallabag#7742

@juanbretti
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juanbretti commented Nov 2, 2024

Another solution (not exactly the same), is to use Obsidian and its new Clipper.
But does not cover all the use cases Omnivore has. Just the "read it later" from a website, highlights and notes.

You could use the Obsidian Omnivore plugin to migrate all your articles to Obsidian.

@menelic
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menelic commented Nov 2, 2024

most of the alternatives do not seem to have highlights and notes - if anyone has been able to successfully migrate those, along with tags, please let me know to which service or tool. I do have logseq import, but would like to keep a separate but linked read it later app

@QuAzI
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QuAzI commented Nov 2, 2024

@menelic Wallabag has some including Logseq/Obsidian, but design and feeds reading flow still not so convenient. I really liked the zen-like design of the non-distracting reading and the ability to read feeds the same way as articles without additional links like Wallabag has. I'll miss it.
But, from other side Wallabag works with my Pocketbook 740 (in browser and even in plop-reader!)
For other things I have Obsidian ReadItLater plugin and Firefox with 'F9 Reader view -> Print to PDF'

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Cito commented Nov 2, 2024

A script to help with the migration from Omivore to Wallabag can be found here: https://github.com/Cito/omnivore-export

@QuAzI
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QuAzI commented Nov 2, 2024

@Cito

While Readwise has released an Omnivore importer, Wallabag was lacking such a feature.

Please check https://app.wallabag.it/import/omnivore

@Cito
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Cito commented Nov 2, 2024

@QuAzI Thanks for pointing that out. The docker container does not have it and I didn't find it in the hosted service when I last checked. How long does this exist? And why can't I find its implementation in the master branch?

@QuAzI
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QuAzI commented Nov 2, 2024

@Cito
I am not a dev of wallabag, you can ask for details in wallabag/wallabag#7742

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Cito commented Nov 2, 2024

@QuAzI - just found it. It was only implemented yesterday in the 2.6 branch, not in master. That explains why I did not see it. Will update the documentation in my repository.

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thiswillbeyourgithub commented Nov 2, 2024

Has anyone checked wether pdf are exported in the exported archive? I used a lot of links towards pdf as well as send local only pdf that I might not have anymore. Are they part of the archive somewhere? Do I have to wget some special links?

Has anyone been able to check? I have tons of studies in pdf in omnivore and can't check right bow (i'm on mobile :( ) if the downloaded archive contains them or if I must do something specific to download them.

edit: it seems to be added in this PR: #4490

I think I just need to wait a bit for the change to be enabled on the server as it didn't work 1h ago.

@ebouchut
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ebouchut commented Nov 3, 2024

How about using a combination of RainDrop + ElevenReader (TTS)?
https://raindrop.io

AFAIK, no sync with Obsidian.

Not open source alternatives, sorry for the noise.

@thiswillbeyourgithub
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As of today november 4th the pdf export seems to be working. At least I find PDFs in my exported zip

@tcelestino
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thanks @tcelestino Did you use GCP ? Does it work with any other cloud provider? Can we use Vercel or AWS? What is the best? Did you need to do anything else, which was not there in the instructions in the blog?

@sreenivasanac I believe that if you use any cloud provider, there are some required services (e.g., Elasticsearch) that you need to set up. I plan to host this on a free tier service like Vercel. Since this is for personal use, having access to these essential services in a cost-effective way is crucial for me.

@SuzanaK
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SuzanaK commented Nov 4, 2024

How about using a combination of RainDrop + ElevenReader (TTS)? https://raindrop.io

AFAIK, no sync with Obsidian.

Not open source alternatives, sorry for the noise.

raindrop.io is open source (MIT License): https://github.com/raindropio/app

Fortunately, I've been using raindrop.io as my primary read it later app and not Omnivore. They don't support offline reading (yet) though.

@ishowman
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ishowman commented Nov 5, 2024

Could you tell me the steps to export omnivore data?

@juanbretti
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Could you tell me the steps to export omnivore data?

@ishowman , you could check https://docs.omnivore.app/using/exporting.html

@Gitbreast
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Could you tell me the steps to export omnivore data?

You could check these two answers.
#4461 (comment)
#4461 (comment)

@mgaitan
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mgaitan commented Nov 9, 2024

I have asked chatgpt to summarize the options shared so far in a comparative table.

Application Description Open Source (License) SaaS (Free?) Self-Hosted Highlights Notes Tags RSS Support Email/Newsletter Support Offline Reading Export Functionality API Availability UI Customization
Omnivore Omnivore is a complete, open-source read-it-later solution for people who like reading. ✔️ (AGPL-3.0) ✔️ (Free) ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️
Linkwarden Linkwarden is a self-hosted, open-source bookmark manager to organize and archive webpages. ✔️ (MIT) ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️
Readeck Readeck is a self-hosted read-it-later service with highlighting and note-taking features. ✔️ (AGPL-3.0) ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️
Shiori Shiori is a simple bookmarks manager written in Go. ✔️ (MIT) ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️
Hoarder Hoarder is a self-hosted bookmark manager with tagging support. ✔️ (AGPL-3.0) ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️
Wallabag Wallabag is a self-hosted read-it-later app. ✔️ (MIT) ✔️ (Paid) ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️
Raindrop.io Raindrop.io is a proprietary bookmark manager with tagging and highlighting features. ✔️ (Free & Paid) ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️
Carnivore Carnivore is a simple self-hosted service to replace Omnivore, built on top of open-source projects. ✔️ (MIT) ✔️ ✔️ ✔️
Obsidian Obsidian is a powerful knowledge base that works on top of a local folder of plain text Markdown files. ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️
Readwise Reader Readwise Reader is a reading app that helps you read more and remember what you read. ✔️ (Paid) ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️
Meco Meco is an app that declutters your inbox by organizing newsletters in one place. ✔️ (Free) ✔️ ✔️
FreshRSS FreshRSS is a self-hosted RSS feed aggregator. ✔️ (AGPL-3.0) ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️
NetNewsWire NetNewsWire is a free and open-source RSS reader for macOS and iOS. ✔️ (Apache-2.0) ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️
Logseq Logseq is a privacy-first, open-source knowledge base that works on top of local plain-text Markdown and Org-mode files. ✔️ (AGPL-3.0) ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️
Instapaper Instapaper is a simple tool to save web pages for reading later. ✔️ (Free & Paid) ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️
Pocket Pocket is a service for managing a reading list of articles from the Internet. ✔️ (Free & Paid) ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️
Matter Matter is a reading app for the internet, combining articles, newsletters, and PDFs in one place. ✔️ (Paid) ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️
GoodLinks GoodLinks is a powerful bookmarking app for iPhone, iPad, and Mac. ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️
Polyglot Polyglot is a read-it-later conversion service that supports various formats. ✔️

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