diff --git a/changelog/13031.improvement.rst b/changelog/13031.improvement.rst
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..30ae4f7085
--- /dev/null
+++ b/changelog/13031.improvement.rst
@@ -0,0 +1,2 @@
+``pytest.mark.parametrize([], idfunc=...)`` will no longer trigger a call to ``idfunc`` with internal objects.
+instead the concrete id ``NOTSET`` is used.
diff --git a/src/_pytest/mark/structures.py b/src/_pytest/mark/structures.py
index 624b37cab9..1a0b3c5b5b 100644
--- a/src/_pytest/mark/structures.py
+++ b/src/_pytest/mark/structures.py
@@ -47,18 +47,18 @@ def get_empty_parameterset_mark(
 ) -> MarkDecorator:
     from ..nodes import Collector
 
+    argslisting = ", ".join(argnames)
+
     fs, lineno = getfslineno(func)
-    reason = f"got empty parameter set {argnames!r}, function {func.__name__} at {fs}:{lineno}"
+    reason = f"got empty parameter set for ({argslisting})"
     requested_mark = config.getini(EMPTY_PARAMETERSET_OPTION)
     if requested_mark in ("", None, "skip"):
         mark = MARK_GEN.skip(reason=reason)
     elif requested_mark == "xfail":
         mark = MARK_GEN.xfail(reason=reason, run=False)
     elif requested_mark == "fail_at_collect":
-        f_name = func.__name__
-        _, lineno = getfslineno(func)
         raise Collector.CollectError(
-            f"Empty parameter set in '{f_name}' at line {lineno + 1}"
+            f"Empty parameter set in '{func.__name__}' at line {lineno + 1}"
         )
     else:
         raise LookupError(requested_mark)
@@ -181,7 +181,9 @@ def _for_parametrize(
             # parameter set with NOTSET values, with the "empty parameter set" mark applied to it.
             mark = get_empty_parameterset_mark(config, argnames, func)
             parameters.append(
-                ParameterSet(values=(NOTSET,) * len(argnames), marks=[mark], id=None)
+                ParameterSet(
+                    values=(NOTSET,) * len(argnames), marks=[mark], id="NOTSET"
+                )
             )
         return argnames, parameters
 
diff --git a/testing/test_mark.py b/testing/test_mark.py
index 60ee795cf4..a9ba416d12 100644
--- a/testing/test_mark.py
+++ b/testing/test_mark.py
@@ -1048,6 +1048,31 @@ def test():
     assert result.ret == ExitCode.INTERRUPTED
 
 
+def test_paramset_empty_no_idfunc(
+    pytester: Pytester, monkeypatch: pytest.MonkeyPatch
+) -> None:
+    p1 = pytester.makepyfile(
+        """
+        import pytest
+
+        def idfunc(value):
+            raise ValueError()
+        @pytest.mark.parametrize("param", [], ids=idfunc)
+        def test(param):
+            pass
+        """
+    )
+    result = pytester.runpytest(p1, "-v", "-rs")
+    result.stdout.fnmatch_lines(
+        [
+            "* collected 1 item",
+            "test_paramset_empty_no_idfunc* SKIPPED *",
+            "SKIPPED [1] test_paramset_empty_no_idfunc.py:5: got empty parameter set for (param)",
+            "*= 1 skipped in *",
+        ]
+    )
+
+
 def test_parameterset_for_parametrize_bad_markname(pytester: Pytester) -> None:
     with pytest.raises(pytest.UsageError):
         test_parameterset_for_parametrize_marks(pytester, "bad")