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11-writing-data: bash inclusion #799
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Thank you for opening this issue @mjcasy, this is a very good point! I searched for
So overall, it looks like:
Here are some suggestions about what could be done:
Any thoughts on this? |
I like the suggestions!
Seem like a good way forward? |
I'm teaching right now a workshop only on R, and I noticed how confusing for participants all the references to shell are! My suggestions are:
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Thanks for your feedback and suggestions @mjcasy and @LucaDiStasio! It is always very helpful to hear feedback from recent workshops so that we can keep improving the material and the learning experience. It looks like we agree that a good way forward is to remove all references to the shell from the lesson itself; and also that the shell could be mentioned in the instructors notes instead and that we can write about checking csv files with a text editor or spreadsheet software instead of using Would anyone like to submit a PR to adress this? |
I think the content reflects that in the original form of SWC workshops, there was a requirement to (at the very least) cover bash, git, and a programming language (R or python); in the even older SWC days, SQL was also a requirement. If these requirements were not met, then the training could not be called a SWC workshop (people were of course always free to use the materials however they like, they just couldn't call it a SWC workshop/training). I don't know what the current rules are for this, but I think it's tricky to decide what to do here. On one hand if a learner has not been exposed to the shell at all, then the references are confusing and don't work. On the other hand, if this is taught as part of a workshop where the shell has been introduced already (as the were originally designed to do), then the call back to the earlier material can help to solidify the content for learners and demonstrate to them the parallels between what might otherwise seem like very disparate ways of interaction with the computer. So, I am not sure what the right thing to do is here. |
Re: https://github.com/swcarpentry/r-novice-gapminder/blob/main/_episodes_rmd/11-writing-data.Rmd
Possible issue on line 106, "Let's switch back to the shell to take a look at the data to make sure it looks". I don't see where the shell has been used in this lesson to be switched back to; moreover, we should probably stick only to R in this lesson?
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