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* Steering group minutes, 2024-09-23 * Add Michel * Rephrase after review * Update organization/_posts/2024/2024-09-24-steering.md Co-authored-by: Eduardo Rodrigues <[email protected]> --------- Co-authored-by: Eduardo Rodrigues <[email protected]>
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title: "HSF Steering Group Meeting, 23 September 2024" | ||
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## Attending | ||
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Present/Contributing: Graeme Stewart, Eduardo Rodrigues, Benedikt Hegner, Pere Mato, Stefan Roiser, Michel Jouvin | ||
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Apologies: Liz Sexton-Kennedy, Nicole Skidmore, Paul Laycock, Torre Wenaus | ||
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## Discussions with Activity Areas | ||
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Any discussions to report on? | ||
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| Activity | SG Responsible | Met? | | ||
| ------------------------------------ | --------------- | ------------ | | ||
| Data Analysis | Eduardo + Mark | | | ||
| Detector Simulation | Torre + Graeme | | | ||
| Physics Generators | Liz + Stefan | Y | | ||
| JuliaHEP | Pere | Y (implicit) | | ||
| PyHEP | Eduardo | Y (implicit) | | ||
| Reconstruction and Software Triggers | Michel + Paul | | | ||
| Tools and Packaging | Liz + 1 more? | | | ||
| Training | Graeme + Nicole | Y | | ||
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Torre has drafted an email to send to simulation conveners, so hopefully meeting soon. | ||
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There is some discussion about packaging tools in Belle II, Pere will pass this on to Liz. | ||
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- [ ] Need one more SG member to also cover the tools and packaging area with Liz | ||
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## European Strategy Update 2025 | ||
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Key areas: generators, simulation, reconstruction, analysis and training/careers. | ||
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**We need a team to manage this process and organise the work with the conveners and the wider community.** | ||
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Volunteers: Michel, Graeme, ... | ||
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Feedback from coordination meeting? Not so far. | ||
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- [ ] Michel, Graeme to reach out to activity conveners | ||
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## HSF and SFT reporting to WLCG/LHCC | ||
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- Eduardo presented to the LHCC on Sep. 10th the "HSF/community Software Report". | ||
- Very well received. | ||
- The LHCC commends the HSF for its evolution and ongoing reorganisation efforts. It also congratulates us on our software stewardship role within the community | ||
(e.g., successful PyHEP initiatives, efforts to explore the role of Julia in HEP, the highly appreciated training programme). | ||
- Eduardo submitted the part "HSF and Community Software Activities" for the October RRB report. (Thank you as ever for the comments/inputs.) | ||
- This incorporated updates from community projects, such as IRIS-HEP and SWIFT-HEP, as well as from the HSF. | ||
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## Seminar Series | ||
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[Indico](https://indico.cern.ch/category/18810/); Coordinators: Benedikt, Michel, Andrea | ||
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- 1 October, Julia in high-energy physics: a paradigm shift or just another tool? | ||
- 30 October, Reconstruction? (Apparently they contacted speakers) | ||
- 27 November, Generators? | ||
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- [ ] Benedikt will follow-up. | ||
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## HSF Affiliated Projects | ||
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Project [document](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Un1V21LdehQNwkNGeUZOl_GBQ8IdjUpDp5bi9g2YvLg/edit?usp=sharing) was circulated to the HSF ~2 weeks ago. | ||
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Graeme got some private questions on qualifying projects from ATLAS colleagues, e.g., did experiment software count. | ||
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A few comments on the [guidelines](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AiLcqyLA4c1y2Iq-YZyKP7DwN8m2AJb_J44cDuGGAXI/edit?usp=sharing) document re. stability of maintainers from Alex. | ||
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- Should not be "downgrading" projects, but encouraging investment | ||
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Next steps - Pere and Eduardo to take care of | ||
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- [ ] Light revision and move to website | ||
- [ ] Concrete project engagement | ||
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## Advisory Group | ||
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No further comments on the document, so we can proceed. | ||
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Initial list of members: | ||
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- LHC Expts | ||
- DUNE | ||
- Belle II | ||
- "Small" experiments | ||
- MCNet | ||
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Next steps: | ||
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- [x] Graeme to draft an email for comments, then contact initial list. | ||
- It's [here](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1K5fq41u_HiqvcHWEYrTRXfAxnZmR_PYCXRntKlvrH4I/edit?usp=sharing) | ||
- [ ] Advisory Group mandate should go onto the website. | ||
- [ ] Invitations to computing coordinators / MCnet chairs (not sure for small experiments - Pere and Graeme will have a coffee with the CERN rep.) | ||
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It was felt that ePIC/EIC and FCC were a bit immature yet to join the AG, but should look again to other potential members from running experiments at other labs. But in any case, go ahead inviting the above. | ||
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## AOB | ||
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### Coordination Meetings | ||
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[Chairing sign up document](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Z1Z4payCpieOLiVFcC6y9j-KCj71u6xX232LHUgIHfI/edit). We need a few more volunteers from now until the end of the year! | ||
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### Domain | ||
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Torre made enquiries with BNL who seem to be willing to take over ownership of the domain. | ||
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### HSF on Google (and other platforms) | ||
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Check accounts used and that information is shared correctly. | ||
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| Platform | HSF Account | Notes | | ||
| -------- | ---------- | --- | | ||
| Google | `[email protected]` | Calendar and YouTube | | ||
| Zenodo | `[email protected]` | Better to have individual accounts manage the community | | ||
| ORCID | `0000-0002-6574-1593` | Because of Zenodo? Probably not needed | | ||
| Twitter/X | `hepsoftfound` | Probably not going back... | | ||
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At least Graeme has these passwords and they can be shared in the Steering Group. | ||
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### Next Meeting | ||
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To get out of phase with LHCb software board meetings, next SG meeting in **3** weeks time, 14 October: <https://indico.cern.ch/event/1459900/>. |