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| Jakarta EE Platform Call | ||
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| Date: 2024-01-23 | ||
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| Present: | ||
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| * Arjan Tijms (OmniFish) | ||
| * James Perkins (Red Hat) | ||
| * Ivar Grimstad (Eclipse Foundation) | ||
| * John Clingan (Red Hat) | ||
| * Jared Anderson (IBM) | ||
| * Kyle Aure (IBM) | ||
| * Emily Jiang (IBM) | ||
| * Jim Krueger (IBM) | ||
| * Riva Philip (IBM) | ||
| * Nathan Rauh (IBM) | ||
| * Tom Watson (IBM) | ||
| * Adam Yoho (IBM) | ||
| * Scott Stark (Red Hat) | ||
| * Nathan Erwin (Individual) | ||
| * Scott Marlow (Red Hat) | ||
| * Brian Stansberry (Red Hat) | ||
| * Cesar Hernandez (Tomitribe) | ||
| * Dmitry Kornilov (Oracle) | ||
| * Petr Aubrecht (Payara) | ||
| * Ed Bratt (Oracle) | ||
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| ## Agenda and Minutes | ||
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| ### JEA-277-mitigate-gh-platform-820 | ||
| * Baseline JDK is now JDK 17 as to Red Hat’s request | ||
| * Email from steering committee | ||
| * Question -> must process be followed | ||
| * Wayne mentioned spec process doesn’t require a vote | ||
| * Spec committee will have a vote | ||
| * Progress review needed | ||
| * Some concerns about virtual threads | ||
| * Oracle | ||
| * A compatible component impl must pass their component TCK when run under Java 17 or 21. | ||
| * To ratify a component specification, there must exist an implementation that passes on Java 17. There must also exist an implementation that passes on 21. | ||
| * These need not be the same implementation. There can be one implementation that passes on 17 and a different one that passes on 21. | ||
| * A compatible platform impl must pass the platform TCK when run under 17 or 21. | ||
| * To ratify a platform specification, there must exist an implementation that passes on 17. There must also exist an implementation that passes on 21. | ||
| * These need not be the same implementation. There can be one implementation that passes on 17 and a different one that passes on 21. | ||
| * Discussed the above | ||
| * Steve Millidge | ||
| * Steve brought it up at the steering committee | ||
| * Specification committee will discuss it | ||
| * GlassFish community | ||
| * Revert 8.0 branch to JDK 17 | ||
| * Anyone against it in this group? -> Nobody against it | ||
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| ### Marlow: Unknown when EE 11 Platform TCK will be ready for Platform/profiles Spec ratification. | ||
| * Appclient container support is being worked on now. | ||
| * TCK Test vehicles need equivalent. | ||
| * Most of the tests need further work for deploying and running on EE 11. | ||
| * EE 11 specific tests will be needed | ||
| * Enough such that there is enough testing to be determined. | ||
| * We also will need EE 11 Platform/profiles to be implemented that can run on . | ||
| * Make list of TCKs that still need to start migration | ||
| * Servlet done | ||
| * Security done | ||
| * Faces done (with including the old tests inside the new build) | ||
| * Persistence need to be done | ||
| * Batch already had standalone | ||
| * CDI already had standalone | ||
| * Authorization needs to be done | ||
| * WebSocket? | ||
| * Concurrency? | ||
| * EJB? | ||
| * Test vehicles | ||
| * Mostly Servlet is important | ||
| * Jakarta Persistence uses Java SE vehicle | ||
| * SE vehicle vs EE vehicle (what’s the exact difference, do we need some definition for that?) | ||
| * Map to an Arquillian container | ||
| * Appclient based test | ||
| * Modification to standard container for Arquillian WildFly | ||
| * Protocol adjustment | ||
| * Appclient needs two deployment | ||
| * Formatted log parsing as output | ||
| * Servlet has simplest impl (maps directly) \ | ||
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| * JavaTest | ||
| * Quite complex | ||
| * No trivial mapping from JavaTest to Junit | ||
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| ### Rest 4.0 becomes Rest 3.2 | ||
| * Deprecation of @Context | ||
| * Implement an alternative CDI based solution already? | ||
| * Deprecated something needs alternative | ||
| * May be difficult to implement | ||
| * Resources available for REST? | ||
| * REST was not able to make 4.0 deadline because of resource issues | ||
| * Hard to say - RestEasy might be CI for REST 3.2 | ||
| * James working on that (for RestEasy) | ||
| * How much time would REST 4.0 still need? | ||
| * Realizing that in 3.1 @Context would be removed in “some” future release | ||
| * Concern that there was no formal deprecation. Without that formal deprecation there might be problems with implementors | ||
| * Effort not terribly much different | ||
| * Might even be more (supporting two injection implementations) | ||
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| ### Jakarta Data implementations | ||
| * Join forces by Red Hat and glassfish community | ||
| * IBM able to chip in? | ||
| * Payara? | ||
| * Tomitribe? | ||
| * Chat with Gavin King | ||
| * How much existing code could be used | ||
| * Scott will talk with Gavin on January 24 | ||
| * Static meta model | ||
| * Might be merged in | ||
| * Can implementation use Jakarta Persistence APIs only? | ||
| * Nathan: yes | ||
| * No need to have the Eclipse EE4J implementation done within the EclipseLink project. Could be standalone project using JPA/jakarta Persistence APIs, could even bypass Jakarta Persistence entirely and just use JDBC | ||
| * Or are Hibernate / EclipseLink specifics needed? -> No | ||
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| ### Validation | ||
| * Any progress? | ||
| * Yes - Scott working on the update | ||
| * Will produce release | ||
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| ### M2 Dates: | ||
| * [Jakarta EE 11 Release Plan](https://jakartaee.github.io/platform/jakartaee11/JakartaEE11ReleasePlan) | ||
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| ### CDI | ||
| * The EE portion needs to be rehomed (profile on the platform) |
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