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author: 'joe'
# TODO: Visualisation? Collaboration?
title: 'Clojure in _______: Whimsical'
author: 'jon'
title: 'Clojure in Collaboration: Whimsical'
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description: '_______'
category: 'clojure-in'
layout: '../../layouts/BlogPostClojureIn.astro'
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publishedDate: '10 May 2023'
publishedDate: '20 January 2024'
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heroImage: 'docker-logo-clojurein.jpg'
clojureIn:
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season: 'two',
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industry: 'security',
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industry: 'sass',
quote: '"We''re all plumbers in the end. Integrating different systems. When you do that, you need a language like Clojure."'
}
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import { Image } from 'astro:assets'

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[Whimsical](https://whimsical.com/) combines whiteboards and docs in an all-in-one collaboration hub.

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We chatted with engineers [Jānis Peisenieks](https://www.linkedin.com/in/janispeisenieks/) and [Nate Hunzaker](https://www.linkedin.com/in/nate-hunzaker-5b0095166/) to learn more about what makes Whimsical whimsical.

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## Intro's

Jon Pither - CEO at JUXT

Quick Round of introductions
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**Jon**

Hi I'm Jon and CEO of JUXT

**Oliver**

Hi, I'm Oliver and a Software engineer at JUXT

**Jānis**

So I'm Jānis. I am the Head of Engineering here at Whimsical. I joined pretty early on, I was employee no.4 I think. Coincidentally, today is my fifth year at Whimsical, so it's been a hell of a ride. Also, just to mention that in terms of Clojure, yes, absolutely. I get it, I read it sometimes, I've written quite a bit, but at the same time, I've been a little bit out of kind of the day to day stuff. I will rely on Nate to comment on the specific; deeply technical questions.
import { Image } from 'astro:assets'

**Nate**
[Whimsical](https://whimsical.com/) is a popular online tool to help teams collaborate and express ideas. The Whimsical hub combines whiteboards, flowcharts, docs, wireframes and more.

Yeah, so I'm Nate, I'm a Staff Engineer at Whimsical. I think I was employee no. 4 and work on the front end. Before working at Whimsical, I didn't have any professional experience with Clojure and so learnt on the job at Whimsical. This has also been the experience for a couple of the front end developers and engineers and we've had a really good experience with it.
The platform is built on Clojure and ClojureScript. I wanted to meet them, to learn about life on the cutting edge of ClojureScript, and what the modern-day pros and cons are.

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We chatted with engineers [Jānis Peisenieks](https://www.linkedin.com/in/janispeisenieks/) and [Nate Hunzaker](https://www.linkedin.com/in/nate-hunzaker-5b0095166/) to get their view.

**Jon: Ok so tell us, what is Whimsical?**

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