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title: PLUG Committee Meeting 2024-06-18
date: 2024-06-18
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## 0. Opening
* Meeting opened by Nick at 20:26 PM
* VENUE: James' place
* In-person busybee for NFP tax exemption, event placeholders for ops/infra/PLUG-in-thePub, etc.
* Present: James, Nick, Ben
* Apologies: Sarah (resigned), Niall, Dan
* Absent: Lochy
* Guest:

## 1. Confirmation of Previous Minutes
* https://github.com/plugorgau/plugorgau.github.io/blob/master/content/minutes/2024-05-21-minutes.md
* https://www.plug.org.au/events/committee/2024/05-21/
* Proposed by James, seconded by Ben. Passed without dissent.

## 2. Next Committee Meeting
* Tuesday 2024-07-16T19:30
* VENUE: https://meetings.ucc.asn.au/b/plug

## 3. Reports & Standing Items
* Financial Situation
* Sarah Allard stepping down from Treasurer/Committee position
* Balances:
* Cash box (at Sarah's)
* Banking done, $198.95 current, $598.95 at start of 2024
* Business Debit Card
* $222.95
* Bank Balance
* $3042.25

* ACTION: Review then refresh standing cloud budget? previously done 2023-08-15
* Get firm numbers of monthly cloud spend
* AWS USD$51
* DigitalOcean USD$27
* rsync.net USD$3
* meeting $30/month (currently shared with the Perth Artifactory)

- MOTION: Standing authority of $150/month is granted to use the PLUG debit card to pay the following expenses:
- Hosting and related expenses, including but not limited to Amazon AWS, DigitalOcean, and rsync.net
- Event expenses as required, including food and drink
- meetup.com membership
- Proposed: Ben, Seconded: James
- Discussion
- Recent actual monthly expenses for these categories have been $60-$80? per month, as above
- Motion passed unanimously

* Membership Situation as of 2024-03-19
- ? new members, ? returned, ? renewals
- Need to nudge new attendees towards formal financial membership
- Current Paid Members 26, was 25 at AGM
- Expired Members 333, was 332 at AGM
- Members on meetup.com 605, was 472 at AGM

* Correspondance
* John M-D: 2025 panel on PLUG/FOSS/open standards?
* Nick replied 2024-05-29 , can we find some co-hosts?
```
Date: Wed, 15 May 2024 11:16:00 +0800
From: John McCabe-Dansted <[email protected]>
To: ... [email protected]
Subject: Re: [plug-ctte] Run Panel at GenghisCon?
```
* https://2025.everythingopen.au/ Monday 2025-01-20, see below in events

## 4. Events Status
* Review of recent events:

* May 2024
* Thursday 2024-05-30T18:00--20:00 PLUG-in-Pub
* 4 Mates Bar & Grill, Bassendean. Thursday $1 wings!
* https://www.4matesburger.com.au/
* Nice! 3 new faces? Stayed inside due to damp courtyard. All beers on "birthday special" prices.

* June 2024
* Second Sunday 2024-06-09 PLUG+POSH
* Second Tuesday 2024-06-11
* Turning your Editor into an IDE with the Language Server Protocol by James
* great! Audience participation.
* AV setup got stuck, left it for a while, took another 10 minutes to get streaming
* Teardown and `AVNODE1` boxing: 19m37s

* Upcoming events:

* July 2024
* Second Sunday 2024-07-14 PLUG+POSH
* Second Tuesday 2024-07-16
* AV project meeting
* PLUG-in-the-Pub Wednesday 2024-07-24: Brotzeit
* Joondalup Lakeside Shopping City, 420 Joondalup Drive Joondalup WA 6027
* https://www.joondalupbrotzeit.com.au/
* 18:00 start (but happy hour is available, 16:00--17:00)

* August 2024
* Second Sunday 2024-08-11 PLUG+POSH
* Second Tuesday 2024-08-13
* Placeholder, look for outings, work visits; or infra workshop
* Roundtable/panel style meetings? like the focus-on-privacy 2022-07-12

* September 2024
* Second Sunday 2024-09-08 PLUG+POSH
* Second Tuesday 2024-09-10
* Placeholder, look for outings, work visits; or infra workshop
* PLUG-in-the-Pub ITLAPD Thursday 2024-09-19? piratebar.com.au ?
* https://digitalfreedoms.org/sfd

* October 2024
* Second Tuesday 2024-10-08
* Placeholder, look for outings, work visits; or infra workshop
* Second Sunday 2024-10-13 PLUG+POSH

* November 2024
* Second Sunday 2024-11-10 PLUG+POSH
* Second Tuesday 2024-11-12
* Placeholder, look for outings, work visits; or infra workshop
* PLUG-in-the-Pub

* December 2024
* Second Sunday 2024-12-08 Xmas BBQ + PLUG+POSH ?

* January 2025
* Second Sunday 2025-01-12 PLUG+POSH
* Second Tuesday 2025-01-14 AGM
* Monday 2025-01-20 -- Wednesday 2025-01-22 https://2025.everythingopen.au/
* Adelaide Convention Centre, North Tce 5000, https://adelaidecc.com.au/
* https://lists.linux.org.au/pipermail/linux-aus/2024-June/024557.html
* PLUG-in-the-Pub

* Future talks?
* JasperG is up for an informal or panel style "presentation", as of 2024-06-11,17
* Linux gaming: Portal: Story of Mel native vs Proton?
* Margaret: EMACS-based UIs for database applications (not until 2023)
* Yuchen: Haskell-code-explorer (unlikely to be ready in 2023)
* Locutus: Ian Clarke (Contact)
* Aidan - Graphics work (Confirm Sat 2024-01-20) (Not at this stage)
* Other event info moved here for non actionable items. https://hackmd.io/O85j6jvpR8SlIKln1UD_AQ

## 5. General Business & Matters Arising


* ACTION: Event promotion: team effort - see previous minutes for details, e.g. https://github.com/plugorgau/plugorgau.github.io/blob/master/content/minutes/2021-05-18-minutes.md#5-general-business--matters-arising
* Meetup/Google calendar
* `Matt Richardson <[email protected]>` ACTION: Promote relevant events on events.raspberrypi.com , need "Raspberry Pi ID"
* facebook?
* X?

* ACTION: XXX: Update PLUG addresses + update the address associated with the ABN (via ATO.gov.au?), ASIC (was this BenjaminA's new address?)
* Who/what/where to contact next?
* https://connectonline.asic.gov.au/ , "Perth Linux User Group" ABN 58233849580
* 2021 was President's address
* Bank using Treasurer's address
* TODO: Create a GovID (not a personal one)

* New reporting requirements for tax-exempt not-for-profit organisations.
* https://www.ato.gov.au/Non-profit/Newsroom/General/Straight-from-the-source---August-2022/
* ACTION: XXX to fill in online form
* https://associations.commerce.wa.gov.au/
* Reports done up to 2023, next will be due post-AGM-2024-01

* Can we create a [PayID](https://payid.com.au/) for the PLUG bank account? This would be less error prone than typing the BSB + account number. We could create PayIDs for committee email address and maybe also ABN.
* http://lists.plug.org.au/mailman/private/committee/2021-June/010370.html
* Ask Bendigo Bank again, post-AGM-2024
* https://www.bendigobank.com.au/ways-to-bank/real-time-payments/using-payid
* Interesting bearing accounts: only 1.45% at Bendigo, others have it at 5%+

* aws.amazon.com
* Bill due first few days of each month
* ACTION: (late 2023?) Niall/Nick: Contact Developer Marketing Manager for an event speaker+swag: quiz
* Plan is for PLUG to take over digitalocean.com bill directly: see below

- ACTION: Grants: AV? Linux Australia? Lotterywest? Commercial sponsors?
- https://lists.linux.org.au/pipermail/linux-aus/2024-June/024561.html
- Ephemeral BBB instance, e.g. https://demo.bigbluebutton.org/gl/m-s-e73-zvh-5hy but with our own single-meeting build, run&record, download and teardown workflow
- update mailing lists: moderators
- admin/committee busybee items: get people using bulk actions on mailing lists

* Domain renewal is due again: plug.org.au
* Tim White
* All agreed for the bill to be paid under the standing cloud expenses

## 6. New General Business

* New treasurer required, Sarah stepping down as per email dated 2024-06-12
* Acting Treasurer: Nick
* S10.8, committee can appoint (co-opt) members to fill casual vacancies
* ACTION: James to ask on mailing list for expressions of interest

* Benjamin (Wings) requested that we shut down the `edison` Digital Ocean droplet
* Just wants to get it off his billing, but more than happy to give like 30 days grace.
* happy to offer as many VMs as we want on Riff Labs
* ACTION: James: ask Wings: can we get an IP? for DNS hosting, mumble?

- Stocktake of our Pi gear and quiz prizes
- quiz this year or not? car rally? movie outing?
- Recent memberships/renewals: all timely processed?
- Current members mailing list: tested and able
to be preloaded with a list of current financial members?
- Minutes: published and deployed to the website

- Committee handover
- Bank
- ACTION: James: Update signatories, add James: CBD branch, early 2024-06?
- ACTION: Add PayID: in bank when collecting her card. Cannot set up in app.
- ACTION: Update PLUG addresses + update the address associated with the ABN (via ATO.gov.au?), ASIC (N.B. BenjaminA's new address)
- [ABN Search](https://www.abn.business.gov.au/ABN/View?abn=58233849580) shows current address at postcode 6153
- ACTION: Niall: Set AWS address: To Niall's place
- Mailing list management. Niall working on it.
- Membership processing

## 7. Meeting closed by Nick at 21:17

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