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2024‐11‐15
Alastair Campbell edited this page Nov 15, 2024
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Attendance (10): MichaelG, AlastairC, KenF, DanB, FrancesS, FilippoZ, Gundula, Giacomo, LoriO, KiaraS
Regrets: Bruce
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#2339 (updating ARIA11 based on #1308) question on linking to the aria spec. Didn't think there was a need to hold it up. Francis will look at it. Gundula liked the idea, wasn't trying to hold it up.
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#4012 (add explanation of 'automatic' in 2.2.2 and 1.4.2), moving to fully reviewed.
Michael was wondering about moving non-normative things into the WCAG doc faster. Things like #4122, which is an erratum, but there's no change of text. Could people consider the types of change, see if that's ok. In the W3c process we could do level 1 and 2 classes of change, but not 3 or 4.
- #1699 (ARIA 22 mod), Detlev opened this a while ago, adding a note on the use of aria-atomic. Patrick has reviewed, will put in front of the group. Solving the original issue needs testing in Jaws first, but the update is good.
- #4104 (Additional note for focus-not-obscured). The class=note creates a duplicate, removed the starting "Note that". Michael will review, including the original issue.
- #4129 (Update F2). Discussion about whether it is a 1.3.1 fail, as AT generally can pick up changes in style (so it's programatically available). Dan thought the older text was more accurate on line 68. Reverted line 68 as the other changes seemed fine.
- #2296 (update link to supplemental guidance), Alastair will discuss with Kevin if we can slip that in, if not it will become an errata only.
- #3725 (Contrast min apply to text outside a disabled control), Giacomo thought we were a bit stuck and needs discussion. E.g. some controls that appear inactive are actually interactive. Also, is the label on a disabled radio button included? Michael - I think it would be part of the control. Frances - What about associated text with an input, e.g. password requirements. Alastair - visually associated text should be included. Gundula - Some of these cases should be read-only, not disabled. Michael left a comment. Frances - is this HTML disabled or ARIA disabled? Different for keyboard access. Giacomo - Wondering about JS disabled buttons, which are still operable in some ways, e.g. triggering validation. Dan - already described as "not operable". Michael - the bar is non-navigable as well. Please have a look at this one, not sure how to respond.